Isn’t Doc Rivers Still A Horrible Coach?
Yglesias notes the weirdness of Bill Simmons claiming that Rajon Rondo has experienced some vast improvement as a player, when in fact his stats have been mostly stable since last season and the only real change is the fact that he’s on a vastly better team and so has the opportunity to take better shots and contribute meaningfully to wins, rather than to the series of blow outs and debacles that typified the Celtics 2006-2007 season. So Rajon Rondo probably hasn’t, in some pure Platonic sense, turned into a better player. I doubt his trade value is that much higher, or that much higher than could have been expected last year. But what about Doc Rivers?
Doc Rivers, as anyone who read Bill Simmons last year could attest to, was the worst coach in Celtics history, the destroyer of a great franchise, a total embarrassment, a tanker etc. Has anything changed in the last year? Has he gotten any better at coaching? Of course not. Like Rajon Rondo, instead of being on a team where a discouraged and oft-injured Paul Pierce was the best player, he’s now coaching a team with the best core three players in the league. For all we know, he’s still the same, mediocre coach as always.
This, of course, brings up the question of what makes a good coach. There aren’t any statistics for coaches, because any of them would just be aggregate totals of their players performance. Of course, wins shouldn’t be the best metric for coaches. Wins can oftentimes be determined by general managers who assemble the teams. So what value added can a good coach provide? This is a very hard question to answer, and I don’t pretend to know. If anything, a coach can add, or detract, from a team’s performance on the margins.
Just look at the career of Phil Jackson. Sure, he’s won all those championships, but he’s also been able to coach the most talented teams of their respected eras. And when the Kobe-Shaq relationship finally deteriorated, he was unable to do much about it. But, on the other hand, there’s someone like Don Nelson. Nelson hasn’t been able to coach teams as good as Jackson’s, but most would say that he’s a good coach from a tactical and motivational stand-point. As far as tactics and strategy goes, he has consistently been able to innovate. He invented the point forward when he was with Milwaukee, introduced the hack-a-shaq with Dallas and brought the run-and-gun offense to suit his undersized Warriors. But how could we measure the contribution of someone like Nelson? I guess the best way to look at coach contributions would be to compare team records and stats with a certain coach to the year before without that coach, assuming that the roster remained the same. But it’s really rare for a team to significantly improve without new talent. Sure, Don Nelson was the coach of the 06-07 Warriors team that made the playoffs, but that’s also the team that jettisoned Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy and acquired Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington. There are just too many confounding variables to isolate Nelson’s contribution.
All of which brings us back to Doc Rivers. Maybe he wasn’t such a horrible coach after all, maybe it was just that he was coaching a terrible team. But even so, his coaching abilities haven’t greatly changed over the last year.
Last year: Rondo plays in blowouts against 2nd string players
This year: Rondo plays in meaningful games against the best players in the league…his points go up from 6.4 to 10.6 and he is more efficient, with his shooting% going from 41 to 49. He averages more rebounds, more steals and more blocks and his 3pt% goes up. In terms of intangibles, he plays great defense against top PG’s and is able to handle playing with future HOFers and in important crunch time situations. All these stat increases only come with an uptick of 6 more minutes a game. Furthermore, even though he is handling the ball more, he actually has less turnovers than last year. Of course his trade value is higher. Am I missing something or is Yglesias just as bad at examining basketball as you.
Ton
April 27, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Edit: He has the same amount of turnovers as last year.
Ton
April 27, 2008 at 9:26 pm
PS: More rebounds is especially impressive when you got the big ticket in there sucking them up.
Ton
April 27, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Sure, he’s gotten better, but it’s really hard to disentangle those stat improvements from how much better his surrounding team is. For field goals, that can be attributed to it being a lot easier to get easy shots with the big three on the floor. Same with the defense, it gets easier to play defense on guards with big ticket in the front court. The same Bill Simmons that portrays Rondo’s improvement as part of him going through some renaissance is the one who goes on and on about how much KG has improved the entire team, especially on defense.
Also, as far as rebounds go, that can mostly be attributed to there being a lot more rebounds for the Celtics get. Last year, teams were shooting 47 percent on 92 possessions per game, now they shoot 41 percent on 91 possessions. Everyone is grabbing more boards. In fact, his rebound rating from 82games.com has gone down from 17.3 to 14.2.
I mean, can’t we all agree that Simmons doesn’t exactly have a skeptical eye when it comes to his Celtics?
Matt Zeitlin
April 27, 2008 at 10:01 pm
If Phil Jackson wins a championship with a re-built squad I think he’ll have to overtake Red Auberbach as the most successful coach in NBA history. Obviously he’s had great players.
I think basically you ask coaches to do certain tasks and if they succeed that’s all you can judge them on. Maybe a coach that can guide a great team to a championship is the same coach that self-destructs when he was worse players. That’s was definitely the case with Larry Brown moving from the Pistons to the Knicks.
Christopher Colaninno
April 28, 2008 at 9:12 am