Which Libertarians Believe This?
Amanda Marcotte has some not so nice things to say about libertarians:
Anyway, the whole statement betrays the fundamental issue with libertarianism, which is that it’s not based around a concept of liberty so much as it’s based around the concept that the bodies of the working class are the actual property of the rich. Sending people to die in war while avoiding the service yourself makes perfect sense in this regard; the working class belong to you, and you can dispose of their bodies for your own means if you see fit. Not saying that Megan believes that outright, necessarily, but she clearly from this statement thinks that the use of other human beings lives to advance an imperialist agenda is, on the moral scale, far down the list from asking the worthy rich to pay back to a society that has given them so much while others have so little.
There are many things wrong with libertarianism, but the idea that they see the working classes as their playthings for neo-imperialist adventures is certainly not one of them. By libertarian, Marcotte seems to mean those conservatives that are pro tax cuts, social spending cuts, talk a good game about how bad the nannie/welfare state is, and also are big Iraq War boosters — kinda like Glenn Reynolds. Too bad Reynolds isn’t a libertarian. Surely Will Wilkinson, Brian Doherty, Julian Sanchez and Justin Logan(war opponents all) aren’t cogs in the neoconservative war machine, and they don’t want the “working class” to be their “property” as well. It’s worth pointing out that it was a libertarian, Milton Friedman, who was the leader in stopping the real conscription of the working classes to fight neoimperialist wars (the Draft). So it appears as if Marcotte is absurdly slandering an entire political philosophy based on Megan McArdle pointing out that taxes aren’t equivalent to charity.
Marcotte also decides to push my buttons on the marriage and poverty issue:
. This view of social spending infects the government under conservatives—the maudlin concern for the souls of the poor has led BushCo to do things like tie welfare benefits to finger-wagging classes about the importance of marriage, for instance.
While I won’t vouch for the good intentions of the Bush Administration’s social policies, “finger wagging” about marriage isn’t all that objectionable. We have good data to show that those children who grow up in unmarried households have worse developmental outcomes and that lack of marriage and family breakdown can cement low social and economic status. So, is trying to get the poor to adopt behavioral changes so that they and their children wont’ be impoverished count as “finger wagging.” I guess, but my concern is with poverty, not whether we should or shouldn’t “finger wag” at the poor. Apparently, because the Bush administration has launched an awful and destructive war, having a social policy that attempts to encourage poverty fighting behavior that is somehow illegitimate. *Sigh*
I agree with most everything you said (aside from some reservations about your marriage boosterism for the poor).
However, I’d also add that Mccardle’s point is profoundly, morally repugnant. She equated policies that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people with American tax policy. That’s on par with anti-choicers comparing the holocaust to abortion.
More generally, I have noticed this moral equivalence some libertarian writers engage, in which they argue that liberals/progressives and the conservative movement are just as bad but in different ways. In fact, Radley Balko wrote just that a few days ago.
So Amanda Marcotte was stupendously, awfully wrong about libertarians…as much as Mccardle was about tax policy and war.
PS Hopefully, I am not engaging in the same equivalence. HA.
Joseph
November 1, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Libertarians don’t explicitly say these kinds of things or necessarily realize it, but their policies of choice do require an essentially enslaved working class — if they want lives at all like the ones they’re living now, anyway.
Mike Meginnis
November 2, 2007 at 6:35 am
Amanda’s mind-reading schtick, where she tells you what her political opponents are really thinking, was ultimately what put me completely off of Pandagon, no matter how much I agree with her on the substance of various issues.
zadfrack
November 2, 2007 at 2:04 pm